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to watch it right here on current. and we have michael shure in the war room in san francisco, and he'll break down some of the electoral possibilities, which is narrowing for mitt romney and david shuster is in denver as well. the debate will start in about 57 minutes. i'm already buzzing. i love these things. >> jennifer: let's go! let's go! >> cenk: and we'll have analysis afterwards as well. vice president gore let me start with you. it looks like mitt romney is significantly down in the important swing states. does your strategy shift now and if so how? >> i think he has to be aggressive, without seeming to be aggressive and i think it's a tricky act for him to pull off. i think that his supporters realize that he is probably behind as the polls indicate and that he needs to really change some minds tonight. i think in some way there's more pressure on president obama simply because the polls indicate and most people expect that he will win the debate and that's a tough position to be in. but at the same time because governor romney has to do so much more --
: the cards went on to san francisco where the giants are ready for them, but not ready enough, i guess. here's the end of the cards game yesterday. >> ground ball to the first baseman, knocked it down, got him. redbirds win this 16-4. they had taken the first of this best of seven from the giants. >> bill: it's tough for the giants to lose the first one on their home field there. >> at&t park. >> it's a great park, by the way. i love watching there. they play again tonight right? today in san francisco. >> yep uh-huh. >> let's go giants. >> bill: i have one bit of advice for all of you watching or listening or right here in the studio. drop everything you're doing right now and go see argo. >> i heard it's fantastic. >> bill: it is an incredible story, incredible movie. ben affleck, phenomenal. as much as i follow this news, i didn't even know this story about way back in the iranian hostage situation back in the late 1970's when there were six that got out and escaped into the canadian ambassador's residence, not to the embass, the residence and were hold up there and this c.i.a. guy comes
called "making change at walmart." they came on buses from dallas, miami, washington and san francisco. >> cenk: when you see the disparity between what the walmart owners have and what the rest of the country has, it is stunning. especially when they don't give their workers the benefits that they need. now, we're also going to talk about a guy who says, you know what i'll fire all my workers if obama is re-elected. get a load of this guy. >> he never thought up to big the biggest house in america. it just kind of happened. >> it's bigger than the white house. >> full size baseball field. [ ♪ music ♪ ] tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. [ ryan ] it doesn't get any better than endless shrimp at red lobster. you can mix and match all day! [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's endless shrimp just $14.99! try as much as you like, any way you like! like parmesan crusted shrimp. hurry in, offer ends soon! i'm ryan isabell and i see food differently. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: david seagull the ceo of westgate properties. he's westgate reso
." they came on buses from dallas, miami, washington and san francisco. >> cenk: when you see the disparity between what the walmart owners have and what the rest of the country has, it is stunning. especially when they don't give their workers the benefits that they need. now, we're also going to talk about a guy who says, you know what i'll fire all my workers if obama is re-elected. get a load of this guy. >> he never thought up to big the biggest house in america. it just kind of happened. >> it's bigger than the white house. >> full size baseball field. (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. nah, he's probably got... [ dennis' voice ] allstate. they can b
at least $2 million to the obama super pac priorities usa. today he holds several events in san francisco. he should raise about $10 million. and that comes after a record month in september of $181 million. he is taking the chance to slam mitt romney for his tax proposals. romney is newly promising not to raise any taxes on the middle class, but the reality is middle class families will likely be picking up the tab. romney's post debate polls are giving him quite a choose. the president is now leading by just three points. he was ahead by six during his peak. more coming up after the break. and we are live in chat. commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. endless shrimp is our most popular promotion at red lobster. there's so many choices, the guests love it! [ male announcer ] don't mi
shure in "the war room" in san francisco. is this an epic beatdown or did the president win by a little bit. >> it depends the way you're looking at. if you're looking at substance which is not what people are looking for in this debate considering the first debate, yeah, it was a beatdown. the president did what he wanted to do. can you look at it and say he crushed him--no. it was a to do list, but it was not a perfect debate. it's like a boy the first time he sees his dad vulnerable, and then all of a sudden he's waiting to see his father be his father again. that's what happened to the base last night. that may be a hokey comparison but that's what it sort of felt like to me. the base saw someone who came out strong and really on fire about his record, which is something that they wanted to see. proceed, cenk. >> cenk: thank you. well actually i want to go to the last answer here because president obama might have saved the best for last. let me show you that and get your reaction. >> obama: when he said behind closed doors that 47% of the country consider themselves victims who ref
leaves san francisco this morning, and then he heads to columbus, ohio where he is speaking at ohio state university. mitt romney is hosting an event at the koch family farm and then heads to a rally. several news outlets are pointing out how similar mitt romney's plan is to president obama's. his goal yesterday was to outline a stark contrast to president obama. as think progress notes there are at least four major areas where romney and the president's plan are nearly identical. one is afghanistan. both plan to transfer power to local security forces by the end of 2014. syria, romney wants to give aid to neighboring states. number 3 is iran where both romney and the president say the country should not have access to nuclear weapons. plus yesterday romney promised to restore aircraft carrier groups to the region but we already have one in the gulf. and romney attacked the president for not signing a single agreement in the last four years, but he is wrong. mr. obama has signed agreements with south korea, and panama. we'll be right back. growing up i had a sin
, in sports, the san francisco giants are headed to the world series. >> bill: yes yes yes yes! >> to face the detroit tigers. giants rocked the defending champion st. louis cardinals 9-0 in a rain-soaked game. >> bill: why couldn't the nats do that? >> third win in a row. marco was named the nlcs mvp for 14 hits. they welcome the tigers to at&t park for game one of the world series tomorrow night. >> bill: you have to feel sorry for the cards right? >> no! i hope it was painful. i tuned in because it was after the debate. i thought to hell with it, i'll stick around and watch the end of the game. i was looking at the cardinals going cry! i want to see tears on the faces of the players. >> bill: they beat our nats. >> the soup kitchen that paul ryan visited for the washing dishes photo op came on hard times quickly when conservative donors pulled their money because they felt the soup kitchen put the v.p. nominee in a bad light. now the society of st. vincent de paul in youngstown, ohio is set to survive and
underway in san francisco. the giants welcome the american league champions detroit tigers. san francisco has home field advantage thanks to the nl winning the all-star game in summer. they will play game one and two at home and if necessary six and sen as well. >> bill: i ran into the chief lobbyist for majority leader baseball last night, and she was on her way this morning to san francisco. i said man, i'm surprised to see you still in town. >> i'm really torn on this. >> oh, giants. >> i like a winner and the tigers look good. they cooked the yankees in four games that's pretty good. >> that's impressive. >> another celebrity endorsement for president obama. you'll remember kelly clarkson voiced her support for ron paul a year ago, now she says because of his support of gay marriage she will be casting her vote for president obama. >> bill: good for her. >> and how would you like to get from new york city to tokyo in 90 minutes? private rocket company, ex-core one of the top contenders in the private space race is developing a super sonic aircraft that sometime in the n
they play another game in san francisco before they move? >> they do. details in two minutes. >> it was a monster game. >> bill: a monster start. boy, the detroit -- detroit was -- they're a hot team. >> granted the yankees are older and hobbled and all of that but they beat them in four games. >> bill: justin verlander they started with him we'll shut down the giants -- >> start with the best. >> bill: boy everybody's got a bad night. certainly had one last night. joe biden had a good day yesterday. he's been out on the campaign trail, raising hell and yesterday out in i have vegas, he was there with leader harry reid, a baby interrupted joe's comments. >> i don't blame that baby for crying. [ laughter ] you know what? she just realized what it means if romney gets elected. god love her. >> bill: god love her. that's my delaware. i hear that all the way in my family. he doesn't know any better. god love them. >> bless his heart. >> bill: bless his heart. that's another one right. what a line-up we've g
on today's job numbers with cal berkeley's laura tyson and san francisco chronicle's karla (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> the idea that he could criticize the president on the down grading, when he led the charge to block a resolution. outrageous. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. >> eliot: anything but good news. that could be the mantra of the republican party right now hoping for gloom and doom from now until november 6th. keep up the flow of negative news that will reinforce the desire they desperately hope for mitt's magic wanted to replace the hand of president obama at the tiller of the ship of state. so it must have been devastating to see a good jobs report, the 31st straight month of private sector job growth, bringing the total number of private sector jobs under president obama over 4.6 million and the unemployment rate dropping .3 of a point to 7.
stamps. >> cenk: all right ben joins us now in san francisco in "the war room"." great to have you here. why stamping the money what are you driving out there? >> you know, stamping money is an incredible way to make your voice heard. it's like petition on steroid. no one sees the petitions you sign up for. there is one bill that you stamp once. that will help 10,000 people. if you do 12 stamps 3 hyundai 300 days a year. stamp, stamp. how many zeros is that? that's like 3 million? 300,000? you lose--that's just one guy. so the idea here is that if people really want money out of politics if they just stamp it pretty soon you'll be seeing this coming up in all your change. it will be that massive movement that really has the possibility to change what they do in congress to force the government. >> cenk: i think i once read how much cocaine is on the bills. 128% of the bills we have has cocaine on them. instead of cocaine put the right message. what is the message you're putting on the bill. >> this is the pro model stamp. this one is not to be used for bribing politicians. this one oh o
about your impression of this. last night the president was here in san francisco at a fund raiser, and he has been doing an awful lot of that. the fund raiser -- the president has held more fund raisers than the previous five presidents combined. he has had to do one fund raiser every 61 hours. what kind of a toll do you think that takes on somebody? >> someone who has a day job of being the most powerful person in the world it's a big toll. and that's why i have to dare to reduce the amount of money, overturn citizens united's let reform. disclose on barack obama on i approve this message. we have to say it, but mr. big bucks with hundreds of millions of dollars in the campaign they go anonymously. >> jennifer: right these candidates -- these campaigns become more and more difficult because of the amount of money out there required to be raised and obviously we all want to see citizens united overturned. you know the president really well obviously. and you know what a competitor he is. how do you account for what happened the other night. >> i was in the room an
. it was all forming. then the tour buses coming to my house. i knew how to get out of san francisco once the tour buses started. this is alice and the dead--and you could hear the microphones outside. we would just go flip them off or something. we knew we had to get out of the city. and also bad drugs and the mob and everything started coming-- >> gavin: even the mob back then, you guys-- >> oh, it was miss. >> gavin: a cut of the drugs. >> oh, big business. just local flavor back then, just local color. but once there was a market for for--for the harder drugs which we were not part of, we just got out. we didn't want any part of it. this wasn't us. it didn't help music and it destroyed humanity, everything we were against. you know we didn't want to be part of any of that. one by one, i was the first and then big ben jerry phil, bobby, we all eventually moved out. >> gavin: this new new new album was recorded in your institutes. >> i've always had a studio. i take a long time to do things. >> gavin: this was five years. >> three and a half. i had to learn the license of changing light
the war room in san francisco. sorry we're not in the same time zone. >> it is a thrilled to be here and meet a very impressive staff. >> jennifer: i have a great team. >> you do. >> jennifer: do you think the campaigns are so concerned about follow-up questions in a townhall setting? >> all complains are threatened by spontaneity and impront tu. we can see why after the first debate when one of the candidates reinvented himself, and the other candidate didn't know what to do with it. >> jennifer: who do you think is going to do better in this townhall setting, president obama or mitt romney? >> i expect president obama to stick it to governor romney on the secrets that are not there in his budget the promises all depend on hidden fine print that has not been exposed and i expect president obama to point that out, and i expect him to go hard on the most dangerous truth governor romney had in the first debate. in the first debate, one deceptive truth was as dangerous as the untruths. and that is i can work with democrats. you can't work with republicans. so there w
york. normallier i'm in san francisco. let's talk about this tax plan. so we know that he wants to lower the rates by 20%, right? >> uh-huh. >> jennifer: and we know that that and the capital gains tax and the estate tax costs about $5 trillion, right? >> right. >> jennifer: so that $5 trillion has to be filled somehow unless he is going to increase the deficit. so the whole question has been how does he select which deductions to take away. and he refuses to say which ones. can you take away enough deductions to be able to fill that $5 trillion hole? >> no, you cannot. if you -- the center for tax policy studied that, and they said if you eliminate every deduction that is basically for rich people you would have to eliminate the mortgage tax deduction, the charitable tax deduction, health care -- >> jennifer: but he did say he would look at it a different way. he would give individuals the ability to have 15,000 or 20,000 in overall deductions and you get to pick. would that take care of it? >> the arithmetic is very simple. if you divide the population
san francisco at our studio there, and you've been following this story for the "huffington post," dave, thank you for being on the show. these are real people. you hear about the jobs, and you hear about the numbers. when you hear about a small story about a big story it always hits home. >> michael, this is a compelling story, and it really is the center of this election. the company makes auto sensors for the automobile industry, and this is a key component for the automobile chain. they're hawking this key component up right now and sending it to china. they made the workers at this plant train their chinese replacements and they took down the american flag while those workers were here. bain capital controls this company. i encourage anybody watching this to go to bainport.com. that's where the workers have a website to support all this. they're trying to block the trucks that come out the bain trucks shipping this equipment to china. there was a sit-in where six people were arrested. there was a sit-in asking for severance for these people. these people are asking military
into the anti-trafficking organizations whether into india san francisco, new york, the number of girls who get $15 to buy an uniform so they can go to school in malawi, all of these grassroots response. that's our aim. >> gavin: congratulations on the success of that, and the commitment and follow through nicholas, thank you. >> my pleasure. thanks. >> gavin: thank you. >> gavin: nicholas kristof is doing more than his part to eliminate conflict and challenge around the world today. but way off the headlines you will there is a little known entity spending billions to help businesses in the marketplace. learn more about the imports-export bank after the break. president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage. >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of outrage that they're doing this, this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> ga
. of the "san francisco chronicle." up next, the romney campaign has once again attempted to deceive the american public about the auto industry. my thoughts on that right after the break. (vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>"if you ever raise taxes on >>the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true! fruit just got cooler. fruit on one side, cool on the other. new ice breakers duo. a fruity, cool way to break the ice. [ male announcer ] you like who you are... and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking
festival. san francisco makes the list for its beer foody culture. l.a. and philadelphia are also on there as well as cleveland ohio. "gq" making it clear it loves the cheapest low shelf beer one can find. >> john: top five beer cities. i don't understand this list. it is not in terms of beer consumption. >> no. in terms of beer culture. denver is a huge beer city. >> john: beer museums and beer galleries. >> beer paintings. >> john: you can live in the beer part of town and hang out with your beer friends. brilliant. that's it? that's all we got? are you a big beer guy? >> yeah, i am. i enjoy a beer. >> john: what are the top five beer cultures? >> denver, san francisco l.a. and cleveland. >> okay. >> i don't think of l.a. as a beer town. >> john: i think of l.a. as like a meth and roofy town. white wine and barbiturates town. one of the top five cocaine towns. do you have that? >> maybe next hour. >> john: he asks in washington, d.c. [ laughter ] >> john: terrific. thank you so much. >> you
in 2006. game three this afternoon, san francisco and st. louis are tied at one game apiece. go giants. >> san francisco in the word series sounds good to me. >> bill: i hate to dump on the cardinals, but they beat our nats. >> i hate the cardinals worse than the yankees and that's saying something. >> even being a supreme court justice won't exempt you from getting a parking ticket. justice scalia despite having a special police placard got a ticket for $31 for parking in a loading zone. interesting to note, the parking authority in philadelphia have long been known as a republican-run institution. >> i got to tell you i hate to be the judge if anthony scalia comes in to protest that. >> sprinted is offering a unique service to its mobile phone customers but it's backfiring quickly. customers can order a personal vanity phone number that begins with the characters star star. if you wanted your own personal phone number, star star bilked be yours. not all phone companies can recognize numbers that start with starkeys, so some friends will never be able to call you. sprint didn't realiz
. san francisco. it's a no-brainer you have to go nats. >> bill: i'm nats. i'm living in washington so it has to be nats. putting me on the spot. [ laughter ] >> just wait until he does media in california where he says go giants. >> agents found drugs and guns on his person. ten pounds of marijuana -- >> only ten pounds -- >> seven people including nelly were detained. and then one person claimed all the drugs. >> bill: maybe they ought to try another check point. >> and whitney houston's daughter is engaged to be married. she is set to marry our adopted brother, nick jordan a&e confirms the news. they adopted the boy when he was 12 years old -- >> um . . . >> bill: that is weird, creepy and that is trouble. you know that is trouble with a capital t. do they live in mississippi? [ laughter ] >> thank you. ♪ >> bill: all right. 12 minutes after the hour. it was a big night last night. a great show. you have got to admit it. and there in danville kentucky last night, evan mcmorris santora was there. what was it like last night. >> we were in a big gymnasium all of u
. the san francisco giants left no doubt that they came to play last week. chris carpenter gave up five runs, while brian vogelsong struck out five batters. now the sereries is tied at 3-3. the game seven winner tonight facing the detroit tigers in the world series. that starts on wednesday. >> bill: nothing against the cards -- >> i want them to fall and fall part. >> >> bill: hate them yes. >> some donors to live strong are asking for their money back. these donors say they feel tricked and deceived after it was revealed that the champion ran one of the most sophisticated doping policy. >> bill: how do you think that will go? >> they won't get their money back, and i don't know what will happen now that he is gone. they are going to have to find another big phases that isn't a world renown cheater. >> garth brooks was inducted into the country music hall of fame last night. also unconducted was harvest [ inaudible ] bob dylan and connie smith. >> bill: was that televised? >> it was. >> bill: all right. hey, dan, thank you very much indeed. as we mentioned there ar
whimping out on libya. but what i really want to know is what michael shure thinks up in san francisco in "the war room." michael. >> i'm getting the response that the giants have scored 7 runs. [ applause ] >> john: and your studio is right across from the giants stadium. >> indeed. the truth is mitt romney was on the defensive all night tonight. tonight highlighted all that we knew about mitt romney. when he was asked the question about what would he do if he heard that israel was bombing iran and he said i don't want to get into hypotheticals, i was astonished. he ducked that question. and the fact that he said he didn't want to get into any kind of specifics, that is the problem with mitt romney. it was there for everyone to see tonight. and one other interesting thing, john mitt romney has not been asked about his taxes not once. so i have come to the conclusion now, that he has gotten away with not talking about how much he paid in taxes. i think that sets a bad president for this election and going forward. >> john: i want to go back to your comment about his co
-- and i enjoyed my own days as a high schoolteacher in philadelphia and san francisco. >> i have opportunities every once in awhile to meet with students who are in college preparing to be teachers. that's a ball. because they're kind of the in tweeners. in between being on one side of the desk and soon they'll be standing on the other side. as a teacher. >> bill: pretty scary the first time you stand behind the desk. >> oh, yeah. my first year, i was so worried about the content and what you soon learn is the content is the easy part. the rest is the hard part. >> bill: good point so we welcome you and welcome our team back this morning. peter ogborn and dan henning and cyprian bowlding. hello, guys, good morning. >> good morning. >> bill: thank you for hanging in the last couple of days while i took a couple of days off. thanks to john fuglesang our good friend from current tv and to jamal simmons for sitting in as guest hosts. we got lots of good comments from listeners and viewers about both of them. so we t
. and michael shure of course was in the "war room" in san francisco. and david shuster is in kentucky. what is happening there, david? >> first of all the republicans are complaining about debate moderator martha raddatz saying that she was somehow unfair which i think is a good sign that they don't believe that their guy did very well. but body language republicans had the same body language the democrats had last week. david axelrod said you cannot deny that joe biden handily won this debate. this was fact and conviction versus ryan's glib lines and empty promises. axelrod said it was at one point watching a principal discipline a student. one of the republicans we spoke with teaches media training to other republicans about how important style and form is. he only wanted to talk about substance. and when we asked him, this is all about style and to enas you guys said last week. and he said maybe people are going to be put off by mitt romney laughing. and obviously republicans are trying to put up a good face but even they rick nice vice president biden cleaned pau
substantive debate on abortion which surprise the us a great deal. i want to go to michael shure in san francisco. what's your take on the evening? >> john, i think it was a real victory for the president in that he was the only one here who had a mission. going to this debate, he had an assignment in this debate which was to undo what he had done the last time. mission accomplished on that score. on both style and substance, he brought it tonight. that's what was prescribed of him. i agree, i was going to say what david said about women. i was surprised with all of the talk of women that we did not hear more about women. we did hear about immigration for the first time in a debate. we did hear about guns. if only briefly and i think the president really won that debate because romney began to wander on that. i understand eliot doesn't believe that it was a big a victory for the president. >> nor do i michael. >> when you think about candy crowley and how they're talking about her right now the winning team is rarely the
in disguise for matt carpenter subbed in for him, hit a two-run home run to help st. louis beat san francisco 3-1 now taking a 2-1 series lead. in the alcs. new york yankees down three games to none to the detroit tigers lived to see another day only because they did not play last night. the game was postponed because of rain. >> bill: yankees got another day on the table thanks to the rain. you gotta say about the cardinals, they are the world champion. >> they're a good baseball team. >> bill: even though we hate them. they're a good baseball team. >> let's make no mistake about it. i hate them so much. like dave zirin said, they're cockroaches. they know how to survive. >> last year, charlie sheen was the highest paid tv actor. forbes is out and he's been replaced by the man who replaced him on two and a half men. the showplace well. ashton kutcher earning $24 million for his role. laurie takes in $18 million. ray romano, alec baldwin of nc nc -- and harmon of ncis round out the top five. >>> are you a firm
are one win away from facing the tigers. they beat the san francisco giants 8-3. >> bill: if the yankees only paid their players a decent salary they might be a little better. >> exactly. that likely i think is a-rod's last game as a yankee. benched, flirting with a woman in the stands. i think they'll have to pay him they'll have to pay any teamout million dollars just to take him. >> i did read a really sweet story. derek jeter went to the hospital and popped up to second. >> the hill newspaper telling us the portrait is being professionally stretched. an air conditioning or steam pipe caused it to get smaller. >> i was in the pool! i was in the pool! [ laughter ] >> i saw charlie at an event a couple of weeks ago and noticed he had lost some weight. >> the mars rover has found more shiny objects since find that go one piece in the soil last week. a couple more objects in the soil, they've scooped up more samples. preliminary findings shows they are actually native to the planet. they are examining the photos and the analysis of the soil to find out exactly what they are. >> bill: this
," governor jennifer granholm will have more on today's job numbers with cal berkeley's laura tyson and san francisco chronicle's karla maranucci. that's ahead in "the war room." but first more "viewpoint" ahead. trickle down does not work. in romney's world, cars get the elevator and the workers get the shaft. that is a whole bunch of bunk. the powerful may steal an election, but they can't steal democracy. if you have an opinion, you better back it up. >>eliot spitzer takes on politics. >>science and republicans do not mix. >>now it's your turn at the only online forum with a direct line to eliot spitzer. >>join the debate now. >> eliot: anything but good news. that could be the mantra of the republican party right now hoping for gloom and doom from now until november 6th. keep up the flow of negative news that will reinforce the desire they desperately hope for mitt's magic wanted to replace the hand of president obama at the tiller of the ship of state. so it must have been devastating to see a good jobs report, the 31st straight month of private sector job growth, bringing the total nu
. that's my opinion. let's bring michael shure back. he's in san francisco. any chance that president obama looked at biden debate and thought maybe i should go more in that direction? >> yeah, i think there is a big chance. i think he'll spend more time looking at the obama debate rather than the biden debate. he has to improve what he did. he'll never been joe biden. that's why he named joe biden to be his running mate, someone who can go out in the trenches and hit it harder than he can. stylistically, i think you're right. even in the state state of the union address he, um,s and haws, and that makes him sound more scattered than he really is. but he's not going to be joe biden. one of the dangers joe biden doing really well is do you have the expectation of the president to do that? that's not what you're going to get from him. you'll probably get more substance, and a cogent argument that you didn't get last time. that's what he'll learn from whatwhat biden did. >> cenk: while covering this last night on current when you do the micro look at how people react on the spot. when pr
us from san francisco from "the war room"." michael, what did you think of the debate and the media reaction to it. i was a little surprised--not surprised by fox news' crying, and i suppose i shouldn't be surprised, but the rest of the mainstream press as usual went with their gut it's a tie. >> first, let's put it in perspective. what the vice presidential debate really meant. only joe biden could have lost or won that debate. anything that paul ryan could have done would not have done anything. i think fox news does what they do and they do very well, frankly. they were critical about things which you could criticize joe biden. the way he smirked the way he smiled. i wish he didn't do it as much, frankly. but you saw what the administration had done. you saw biden talk. it. to see sean hannity say rude and condescending, they're the captains of rudeness and condescension. this is the regular stuff that you get out of a debate. the stuff that we saw last week is not ordinarily what we get. >> cenk: let's go to an interesting side note here, which is whether they decided to do this
think you're fooling with this ballot? >> stephanie: really jim? bob in san francisco. hi bob. >> caller: hi. voting for romney because you blame obama for the economy is like gray davis in 1999. blaming enron and what they did to california on recalling him. >> he was the one who tried to prevent that disaster. >> stephanie: schwarzenegger turned out to be so great. [ wah wah ] >> a few things in his nature. what exactly would you do as governor? >> things of that nature. >> those kinds of things. >> stephanie: we figured out what he was. what things of this nature went. what he was going to do was... the maid. >> there you go. >> stephanie: greg in boston you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> hey stephanie. thank you for taking my call. happy halloween. thank you for letting me speak also with elvira. i love elvira. >> oh, thank you. >> stephanie: is there a man alive who doesn't? for god's sake. >> the straights the gays, everybody. >> let me just tell you that. >> thank you. >> stephanie: yo
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